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	<title>Comments on: Organic milk less healthy than regular milk?</title>
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		<title>By: Lee Cullens</title>
		<link>http://downtoearthblog.com/foodproduction/organic-milk-less-healthy-than-regular-milk/archives/129#comment-1636</link>
		<author>Lee Cullens</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sara: Good points and readily accepted :o)  Actually the bold paragraph at the end of the article is the main thread of most of my articles.  That and what is most dear to my heart - how we treat our animals.  

A friend that is trying to write an article for a working dog magazine commented: "I have to keep it short and noncontroversial - it's like I'm writing for ostriches."  

How does one get through the pervasive industry fog to effectively let those unaware "discover" the reality of the manipulation?  Yes I've read those "marketing" books, and have been there in what I call my past life :o)

I completely agree with being very careful about source, and that is why I'm as close as is possible to my source :o)  Otherwise I would avoid milk, and having done considerable research on the subject I believe industrial milk, as with much of food processing, has a net negative effect on our health (but I'm just one of those natural health nuts).  Of course, if on my site you read my poem "Buddy Bear Tale" then you already know where I'm coming from.

My best to you and yours,
Lee C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sara: Good points and readily accepted :o)  Actually the bold paragraph at the end of the article is the main thread of most of my articles.  That and what is most dear to my heart - how we treat our animals.  </p>
<p>A friend that is trying to write an article for a working dog magazine commented: &#8220;I have to keep it short and noncontroversial - it&#8217;s like I&#8217;m writing for ostriches.&#8221;  </p>
<p>How does one get through the pervasive industry fog to effectively let those unaware &#8220;discover&#8221; the reality of the manipulation?  Yes I&#8217;ve read those &#8220;marketing&#8221; books, and have been there in what I call my past life :o)</p>
<p>I completely agree with being very careful about source, and that is why I&#8217;m as close as is possible to my source :o)  Otherwise I would avoid milk, and having done considerable research on the subject I believe industrial milk, as with much of food processing, has a net negative effect on our health (but I&#8217;m just one of those natural health nuts).  Of course, if on my site you read my poem &#8220;Buddy Bear Tale&#8221; then you already know where I&#8217;m coming from.</p>
<p>My best to you and yours,<br />
Lee C</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://downtoearthblog.com/foodproduction/organic-milk-less-healthy-than-regular-milk/archives/129#comment-1635</link>
		<author>Sara</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee:  Thanks for the link to a very thorough article.  You make some very good points, [although I have to take you to task for using some of the same verbal tactics that you abhor to imply conclusions in some of points.]

&lt;em&gt;Healthy&lt;/em&gt; raw milk is a good thing.  The problem I see is that the safety of raw milk requires scrupulous cleanliness and integrity on the part of the producer.  As you point out so rightly about organic, large scale lends itself to shortcuts.  I have a hard time trusting "commercial" raw milk if I'm more than one step away from the dairy itself.

I have decided against having our own milk cow, because I don't feel like I have the facilities to maintain the cleanliness I need.  I also won't buy raw milk at whole foods.  BUT, I do know a local dairy, whose bacterial counts I see every month, and whose integrity, knowledge and commitment to cleanliness I trust, that I will buy raw milk from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee:  Thanks for the link to a very thorough article.  You make some very good points, [although I have to take you to task for using some of the same verbal tactics that you abhor to imply conclusions in some of points.]</p>
<p><em>Healthy</em> raw milk is a good thing.  The problem I see is that the safety of raw milk requires scrupulous cleanliness and integrity on the part of the producer.  As you point out so rightly about organic, large scale lends itself to shortcuts.  I have a hard time trusting &#8220;commercial&#8221; raw milk if I&#8217;m more than one step away from the dairy itself.</p>
<p>I have decided against having our own milk cow, because I don&#8217;t feel like I have the facilities to maintain the cleanliness I need.  I also won&#8217;t buy raw milk at whole foods.  BUT, I do know a local dairy, whose bacterial counts I see every month, and whose integrity, knowledge and commitment to cleanliness I trust, that I will buy raw milk from.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Cullens</title>
		<link>http://downtoearthblog.com/foodproduction/organic-milk-less-healthy-than-regular-milk/archives/129#comment-1630</link>
		<author>Lee Cullens</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a reasonably thorough treatment of the milk issue and why many believe what they do, you might read the article "Is Soda Pop or Milk Healthier?" at http://achinook.squarespace.com/  

Other natural health issues are addressed there also, all in a strictly noncommercial environment :o)

My best to you and yours,
Lee C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a reasonably thorough treatment of the milk issue and why many believe what they do, you might read the article &#8220;Is Soda Pop or Milk Healthier?&#8221; at <a href="http://achinook.squarespace.com/" rel="nofollow">http://achinook.squarespace.com/</a>  </p>
<p>Other natural health issues are addressed there also, all in a strictly noncommercial environment :o)</p>
<p>My best to you and yours,<br />
Lee C</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://downtoearthblog.com/foodproduction/organic-milk-less-healthy-than-regular-milk/archives/129#comment-1226</link>
		<author>Suzanne</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sara, thanks as always for a thoughtful post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sara, thanks as always for a thoughtful post.</p>
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